Goodbye, friend.

I wrote about my friend last week and trying to decide what I should do about the difficult situation. I appreciate all the advice and encouragement, it really helps. Really.

I had thought about calling child services before, but several things have stopped me. Because of my friend’s nationality if the children were to be taken away, they would go to family first and her family is no better than she is when it comes to raising children. The lifestyle that my friend is living is the stereotypical lifestyle for her nationality, which is just a pathetic excuse, in my opinion. The reason the children would go to family first would be for cultural reasons.

Which I can somewhat understand. But I still don’t agree with it.

I have thought about talking to the school. But as sad as this sounds, these are probably just two of several children who are living this way.

But that doesn’t justify any of it or make it right.

I talked to my friend. I told her that what she is doing is wrong. I told her that her children should come first, before anyone and anything. I explained that most 5 year old children don’t even understand the concept of death, and most especially should not know what suicide means!

I was angry when I voiced everything to her. I apologized for being angry and I tried to explain that I loved her and her children and I hate seeing them hurting.

I also explained that I couldn’t just sit around and watch as the children suffer. All she had to say in return was that it was hard being a single parent. She said that it’s hard because when she wants to go out for even just a couple hours, there is no one around to watch them (I should mention that the kids go to their fathers house every single weekend. That’s 2 free days she has to herself).

I understand it’s hard, but her only complaint is that she doesn’t get to go out? Well, my dear, things could be much worse.

The last thing I said to her was, “I don’t know if I can continue this friendship” and all she said to me was, “I understand. Take care.”

Really.

I understand, take care???

22 years of a friendship and that’s all you say to me!

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

It hurt at first, because I couldn’t believe someone I considered a good friend would respond like that. But should it really surprise me? Not really.

I still worry about those kids. And I still don’t know what I’m going to do about it. I know I need to do something, before something happens to them.

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16 Comments

Lillie  on March 2nd, 2010

You are definitely in a awkward position, but in my opinion, some type of intervention has to take place for the children to have a fighting chance. I read the story about the five-year-old standing in the street yelling that he wanted to die. Someone that young should not be finding life that difficult to cope with. It’s heartbreaking.

Annie  on March 2nd, 2010

Ouch. You told her how you feel , so you can’t ever say “I knew I should have said something earlier.” It’s up to her now. She knows where you stand, how you feel, that you know her situation, etc. She’s made the choice to let go of you and the long friendship you’ve had.

As for the kids, I think the right time will show itself to you and you will know what to do then. It may not happen as soon as you’d like, but it will happen.

Heather  on March 2nd, 2010

I’m so sorry for your pain…I know how much this is hurting you. I wish I had all the answers for you, but I have none…but I wish you all the best for you and those children.

Therese  on March 2nd, 2010

I’ve read both of your posts on this, and am I the only one who thinks you may have been the one to overstep boundaries? Honestly, it isn’t your problem and there’s a lot worse things out there than this.

Don’t get me wrong–I don’t think children should be wandering outside alone, crying about suicide. I don’t think they should be left in the hands of someone who might not be mentally stable or capable of handling little ones.

But you definitely burst out of the role of a friend. You already brought it up with her a few times before. You (I assume… can’t remember) already offered places that will help her. If she can’t make the initiative, or doesn’t think it’s wrong, then that’s her choice. You aren’t the parent of those kids!

While you say its a sad excuse (that it’s their culture, etc), maybe they NEED these experiences to survive in that type of culture. We tend to think the way we grew up is the best… but it’s not the best for everyone.

If you felt you couldn’t call children services, then who will? You’re obviously a very passionate person, but what else did you expect her to say when you said that you give up? “Oh great, let’s grab tea tomorrow”?

She just lost a friend too, is dealing with a lot of heavy stuff. Just leave her alone to sort out her problems. If she wants your help, she’ll ask for it. Let’s just hope she does sometime.

Frugal Dreamer  on March 2nd, 2010

Therese:

I appreciate your opinion.

I don’t know what I expected when I told her that I didn’t think I could continue being friends with her. I guess I just expected more than what she gave. It’s more than what I would give, I guess. But just because she didn’t do exactly as I expected, doesn’t make what she said wrong.

It just hurt.

I think by me continuing to be friends with her was showing her that I was OK with her treating her children the way she was. And I wasn’t OK with it and she needed to know that.

I am a firm believer in standing up for what you think is right, and I feel that what I did was right.

I don’t think the way I was raised is the ‘only way’. But I do know what’s right and what’s wrong. And her lifestyle and choices are wrong.

eemusings  on March 2nd, 2010

Oh hun that’s awful and I can’t believe she said that. Still, if she’s willing to throw away your support and friendship without trying, she doesn’t deserve it.

I don’t know what to say about the kids. I hope it turns out okay for them.

Nan  on March 2nd, 2010

I have been reading your blog for a while now and really enjoying sharing your life. So please pardon my interference. I understand you want good things for your friend and her children. But by walking away from them, you are not doing them any good. You are not a parent and it is impossible for you to understand how difficult it is to be a caregiver 24/7. So your friend is desperate for some time to herself,even if it means dropping the kids off with their father. Have you offered to watch the kids some evenings so your friend can have a little bit of time to herself? Can you go and read to the kids and show them the door to a better life? I understand you are hurting, but I think your friend may be depressed and therefore apathetic. Please be a good friend and help her and her kids; don’t just walk away. Good luck!

Frugal Dreamer  on March 2nd, 2010

Nan: I really love hearing from my readers. This is why I choose to share these things. To get other perspectives. So thank you for sharing your opinion.

You’re right in saying that I don’t understand since I am not their parent or caregiver.

I don’t understand what it’s like raising a special needs child. Nor do I know what it’s like being a single parent.

I don’t doubt for a second that those things are hard.

BUT. When your child, a 5-year-old child, is saying that he wants to die because he heard his father say that. And then you choose to let that same child spend days/nights with the same man who influenced that behavior is SO completely wrong. Regardless of anything else going on in her life. It’s WRONG.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

So I might be a “bad friend” for walking away and leaving her high and dry, but WOW.

And this wasn’t just the first thing that has happened and I’m calling it quits. This is just the last thing I agreed to listen to.

The Asian Pear  on March 2nd, 2010

I know you are hurt by her reaction but I think your friend is probably hurt too. Maybe she didn’t see it coming and as such acted defensively?

I don’t think you should give up on the friendship though. It would be a wasted friendship and it sounds like you really worry about your friend and kids. So washing your hands of it? Well, it’ll just remain the same except you won’t be there. Maybe you can help her and direct her to a community centre or a support group for single mothers?

Frugal Dreamer  on March 2nd, 2010

Pear: I honestly believe with me there or not, things won’t change. They haven’t changed for the last 20 years. She dropped out of school in grade 10 and I have tried and tried to help her obtain her GED – but it’s just excuse after excuse.

I offered to help find her a counselor for her and the kids – but she didn’t feel that was necessary.

:(

Rina  on March 3rd, 2010

Situations like this are so so hard. *hugs*

jsmidian  on March 3rd, 2010

I’ve never written in before, but felt I should. I am sure it was very difficult to do what you did, but I think ending the friendship was for the best. I was watching Intervention last night (for drug addicts) and they always say the family/friends must heal themselves so the addict can be responsible for their behaviour and change themselves. Your situation is comparable I think. You need to stop torturing yourself and thinking you can change her, and then without the enabling from anyone, she can change. I personally would not do anything about the kids right now. Although the suicide thing is awful, many kids have been through a lot worse…a time may come when you need to intervene for them, but I’m not sure that is now.

Frugal Dreamer  on March 3rd, 2010

Thanks Rina! :)

jsmidian: Thank you for your thoughts.

I definitely agree with what you had to say. :) It’s hard and was taking a lot of out me to continue the friendship.

Lisa O Shea  on March 4th, 2010

I have been told not to expect so much from my friends then i will not be as disappointed!Its hard though!I am a good friend and expect the same!My heart goes out to you for trying!

FrugalDreamer  on March 4th, 2010

Yep. Exactly.

Thanks for the comment! :)

seenonflickr  on March 10th, 2010

How sad. And how sad for her that she has a friend like who has tried to help and she's not able or willing to take the help. It's a tough situation all around.

She hasn't yet hit the point where doing right for her kids is more important to her than she is … here's hoping she gets there soon.

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